[bmcclure937]

Originally Posted by reflex

Screenshots can't diagnose this problem. You need to take an actual shot of the screen with a camera.

May I ask why? The screenshot is to-scale and accurately represents the aspect ratio that was displayed on my screen. It is an exact screenshot of my full-size firefox Window showing an image of a circle (which did not appear stretched when I viewed it... and does not appear stretched in the screenshot, in my opinion).

Explain to me how someone on another system who is viewing this exact screen capture would not be seeing the same thing I am (as long as they do not mess with the aspect ratio when viewing the photo).

[Max_Carnage]

Originally Posted by frank

I sold a 10v because I was unaware that the 1024x600 display on the 10v has the exact same physical dimensions as the 1024x576 display. There are 24 additional vertical pixels in the same amount of space, making each pixel less tall than wide.

Coulda just rotated the thing 3.6 degrees to the left or the right to compensate...

Seriously, I expect you're right. Not a big problem for most people without OCD though, even those using it for design/cad.

[frank]

Originally Posted by bmcclure937

May I ask why? The screenshot is to-scale and accurately represents the aspect ratio that was displayed on my screen. It is an exact screenshot of my full-size firefox Window showing an image of a circle (which did not appear stretched when I viewed it... and does not appear stretched in the screenshot, in my opinion).

Explain to me how someone on another system who is viewing this exact screen capture would not be seeing the same thing I am (as long as they do not mess with the aspect ratio when viewing the photo).

Okay, I don't think you're getting it.

The 1024x576 and 1024x600 displays are the EXACT same physical size. Therefore, the pixels on the 1024x600 displays are not square, they are 1.04 times wider than they are tall. True circles will be displayed as ovals on the 1024x600 display, as they are squished about 4%.

When computers take screenshots, they assume that each pixel is as tall as it is wide. A screenshot taken from a 1024x600 Mini 10 will look the same on that Mini 10 and will appear to be normal on every other display. On the 1024x600 display, the difference may not be immediately obvious with out close inspection and measuring.

Take a ruler and measure the diameter of your circle both across (left-to-right) and from top-to-bottom. You'll find the top-to-bottom measurement to be about 4% less than the left-to-right measurement.

And I thought my eyes were going.

Originally Posted by Max_Carnage

Coulda just rotated the thing 3.6 degrees to the left or the right to compensate...

Seriously, I expect you're right. Not a big problem for most people without OCD though, even those using it for design/cad.

I don't get the rotate bit, but you're right. I might be a little OCD. I can't stand going to a friend's house and watching TV and seeing 4:3 content stretched on a new 16:9 flat screen.

"Dude, you have your video set up wrong. Don't you see the stretched image?"

"No, what are you talking about?"

Sigh.

I suspect that 4% is much larger than the accepted margin-of-error for CAD projects, however.

[bmcclure937]

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification. Makes more sense now

[jacques1171]

1. The Resolution is Measured in Pixels
   
2. The resolution of a monitor is measured in picture elements, or "pixels" for short. Pixels are tiny dots that display on a computer monitor in one of millions of colors, shades and hues. To the viewer, the many pixels in a computer monitor combine to form a viewable picture.Vertical Measurements
   
3. The first consideration in measuring a monitor's resolution is the number of lines displayed on the monitor from top to bottom. While a traditional television display may consist of about 480 lines, higher resolution computer monitors squeeze at least 1080 lines onto the display.Horizontal Measurements
   
4. Each of the many lines measured in Section Two above is comprised of hundreds or thousands of tiny dots (pixels). Generally, the number of pixels contained in a line is proportional to the number of lines in the monitor's display; more lines means more dots in each line.Resolution is Measured in Horizontal x Vertical Pixels
   
5. When a monitor's resolution is described, the description generally consists of the number of dots (pixels) contained in each line followed by the number of lines on the monitor. For example, a 1600 x 1200 display would contain 1600 pixels per line and display 1200 lines. An older monitor that displays resolutions of 640 x 480 would display 480 lines containing 640 pixels each. By this measurement, the number of dots per line can be multiplied by the number of lines to identify the total number of pixels displayed by the monitor. Using the examples above, a 1600 x1 200 monitor would display 1,920,000 individual pixels. An older monitor with a resolution of 640 x 480 would display 307,200 individual pixels. Because the individual pixels combine to display a complete picture, a higher number of pixels generally means a clearer picture.

The circle wont be oval it just means that there is more space to display image, aspect will be adjusted by it self, the correct way to measure a circle is to find center with a grid. I did this on my mini 10v and the circle was round not oval.

You can't measure with a photo the top and bottom of the camera lens must be 100% parallel with the top and bottom of the screen or the circle will be distorted.

ALL that it means is that the dots on the screen are smaller so there is 24576 (not 24) more pixels to give you a beller screen quality.

1024x600 = 614400 pixels
1024x576 = 589824 pixels

[reflex]

Originally Posted by bmcclure937

May I ask why? The screenshot is to-scale and accurately represents the aspect ratio that was displayed on my screen. It is an exact screenshot of my full-size firefox Window showing an image of a circle (which did not appear stretched when I viewed it... and does not appear stretched in the screenshot, in my opinion).

Explain to me how someone on another system who is viewing this exact screen capture would not be seeing the same thing I am (as long as they do not mess with the aspect ratio when viewing the photo).

A screenshot is a capture of what the OS thinks is being displayed onscreen. But if the 10v's 1024x600 screen uses non-square pixels the display will be distorted without the knowledge of the OS. So, a screenshot won't help.

To test for distortion, I drew a cross, where each line is the same number of pixels. Try measuring the lines of the cross on your 10v's 1024x600 screen. When displayed at 100% zoom in an image viewer on my square pixel screen, I get 85mm in each direction.

[frank]

Originally Posted by jacques1171

The circle wont be oval it just means that there is more space to display image, aspect will be adjusted by it self, the correct way to measure a circle is to find center with a grid. I did this on my mini 10v and the circle was round not oval.

What is the display resolution of your Mini 10v?

Also, you should note your sources when copying and pasting text.

[frank]

Originally Posted by reflex

To test for distortion, I drew a cross, where each line is the same number of pixels. Try measuring the lines of the cross on your 10v's 1024x600 screen. When displayed at 100% zoom in an image viewer on my square pixel screen, I get 85mm in each direction.

I opened your cross in Photoshop and made it a non-transparent PNG so that it doesn't come up as a black square. Hope that's okay.

[reflex]

Originally Posted by frank

I opened your cross in Photoshop and made it a non-transparent PNG so that it doesn't come up as a black square. Hope that's okay.

Already fixed it in the original post.

[frank]

Originally Posted by reflex

Already fixed it in the original post.

I looked at again right after I posted the fix, and thought I was losing it. Thank you for stating you fixed it. Whew!