[belovo]

Hi, I'm trying to install Snow Leopard 10.6.3 off a retail disk to my new Dell 10v 2GB, A04 BIOS.

First, the NBI 0.8.5pre brings up some really strange issues: the overall performance is just very poor. The most annoying is how the touchpad works. It starts jumping or being extremely unresponsive when I enable two-fingers scrolling and tap-to-click in the prefpane. The issues remain even if I disable these. Running NBI once again (post-install) makes no difference at all.

The previous version of NBI (0.8.4RC1) is a bit better. The touchpad seems to be fine but once I do a post-install NBI (well, in order to make sound work), it goes wrong again.

I tried a 10.6 retail disk and it seems to be ok as I don't need to run NBI to make things work. So basically, I have no way to update or else my touchpad or even the whole machine performance gets borked. I do a clean install every time.

What might be wrong? Everyone reports great experience with 10v and I kinda really envy you guys

[underwhelmed]

The touch pad on the 10v is horrible.

I did a transplant with the 1010 touch pad which is better, but still not great. The mini 9 touch pad is awesome by comparison.

Did you try and adjust the sensitivity? I set my 2 finger sensitivity 3 clicks from the Low setting and it is OK.

As far as NBI, I would avoid the pre, it is pre-release and has some issues. I use this one-
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/863180/Netbo...212351.app.zip

This version will allow you to update to 10.6.6.

My best experience with NBI has been to install it immediately after completing the OS X install, before the machine reboots.

It is in the Utility menu and if you are quick and catch it before it reboots you can run it and then everything works as it should.

[belovo]

Thanks for your quick reply! Oh, yes, I didn't even notice that one in the menu. I'll give it a try right now and get back with my results!

By the way, that version you've posted... same as 0.8.4RC1?

EDIT: Nope, still same after running NBI from the Utility menu. Tried playing with touchpad settings with no luck. I can update to 10.6.6 but booting time increases to at least 2-3 minutes compared to 30-40 secs with 10.6.3. Wonder why... I think it's somehow related to the touchpad.

Please tell me about that 1010 touchpad upgrade. What works and what doesn't? Why it's not as great as Dell 9's?

[underwhelmed]

That version of NBI was released when 10.6.4 came out, it's the last release before the 8.5pre.

The boot lag is from the audio kext, more specifically it has to do with when and how it is loaded.

The 1010 track pad upgrade. I found the original thread here-
http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/dell...-mini-10v.html
Check out posts 7 and 8 in particular.

It is a pretty good improvement over the 10v track pad, but not nice as I want it to be.

I really can't quantify why the mini 9 track pad is better other than to say that I have 3 of them and never had a single issue with jitters or jumping. It is very smooth and has actual left and right buttons.

[belovo]

Oh... I tried again and managed to get 10.6.6 with your NBI working well. It boots quickly and seems to have no issues with performance. The only problem is multitouch. So I just deleted the prefpane and the loader. I guess I'm just gonna have to replace the touchpad with the one you've specified.

[belovo]

By the way, is that new touchpad recognized in mac os as one? I mean, can you use a native Trackpad prefpane in mac os to adjust its settings?

[underwhelmed]

Nope, it still needs NBI and the related kexts in order to work. None of the Dell touch pads can recognize more than two fingers, so two finger scroll is as good as you will ever get with them.

[belovo]

That sucks... But that one seems to be a true multitouch, so it might really be a bit better. Anyway, let's see so, do i need different kexts or prefpane from the one installed automatically? I've read someone from that thread wanted to use the old NBI kexts since the latest ones were causing the "jumping touchpad" thing or something. What kexts are you using? I just want tap-to-click and 2-finger scrolling work well, nevermind the other things such as gestures or 3-fingers

[Slothtyper]

Originally Posted by belovo

That sucks... But that one seems to be a true multitouch, so it might really be a bit better. Anyway, let's see so, do i need different kexts or prefpane from the one installed automatically? I've read someone from that thread wanted to use the old NBI kexts since the latest ones were causing the "jumping touchpad" thing or something. What kexts are you using? I just want tap-to-click and 2-finger scrolling work well, nevermind the other things such as gestures or 3-fingers

You should have that now with the NBI you are using, it contains those kexts.

[belovo]

Ok, thanks a lot to everyone, I'll be back to this thread with a new touchpad and report my progress! One more question: what about 10.5.8? Is everything working as well? I've heard it greatly speeds up booting time and performance, is that for real?