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Arrow 720p-1080p HD Video playback on any netbook even you 10v - 01-09-2010, 09:29 AM

Ever wanted to play 720p video on your low end Atom based netbook? But you don't have ION based netbook? Tired of skipping and slow Full HD video playback? I just found out a near perfect solution for any netbook, even for those with just 1,6GHz Intel Atom processor and Mobile Intel(R) 945 Express...
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:12 PM
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Would someone comment on how QT Pro 7 performs on their 10v as a HD playback platform?
Thx.
You phrased that somewhat hard to understand....do you mean how well quick time 7 perform as a mediaplayer compare to others?

Both VLC and Quick Time uses its own decoders, and so far from benchmarks, it seems that VLC out perform Quicktime. (then again theres cyberlink which is like a hybrid of coreavc and standalone player).

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No one is getting defensive. Have you tried this yet or are you just going to be a downer? Because until you try it you cant have an opinion I can understand if you tried this found it doesn't work (yes, coreavc as the hardware decoder itself works, but im just stating that the n270 is just too weak of a processor to decode 720p even with the help of it, and it would be somewhat misleading if someone actually went out and purchased the software and not gain any noticeable difference) and then said what you said but if it works it works. The ram comment was to let you know I didn't mod anything out or change a thing it's a regular 10v stock. Try this and let me know your opinion because from reading your posts on other forums it looks like your trying to figure this out. I just want to spread the love of hd on minis there's nothing wrong with that...
Exactly what the issue is here, I purchased the 10v in hopes i could watch hd content on the go, but was quickly disappointed by how bad it performed (100% cpu on 720p playback w/coreavc, 4~10 frame drops on 24FPS show/artifacts).

Noticed that other eeePC users overclocked their netbook with the n270 to around 2ghz and got flawless 720p playback, and 1080p with slight lag, then only to find out that the 10v had a restriction on overclocking.

Back on topic, hd content is definitively out of the question, but 480p play back extremely nice.

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Now somewhat more off topic: since we are speaking about video playback, I found this userscript to very useful when watching flash videos:

Youtube without Flash Auto for Greasemonkey

Watching flash videos on the 10v usually uses about 60~80% cpu, and that can reduce battery life, increase heat, and might even damage the 10v over time.

What this userscript does is uses VLC's internal decoders to decode flash video, instead of using, well, flash. It reduces cpu usage to 10~20%, so you can stream up to 3 or 4 youtube videos simultaneously and it'll still use same/less cpu than before.
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:14 PM
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Exactly what the issue is here, I purchased the 10v in hopes i could watch hd content on the go, but was quickly disappointed by how bad it performed (100% cpu on 720p playback w/coreavc, 4~10 frame drops on 24FPS show/artifacts).

Noticed that other eeePC users overclocked their netbook with the n270 to around 2ghz and got flawless 720p playback, and 1080p with slight lag, then only to find out that the 10v had a restriction on overclocking.
If you purchased a netbook with a screen that cannot display HD content, why would you bother watching HD content? (And, if you say back "Well, I was gonna use an external monitor!" do you really think the (in your re-phrased words) bad performing N270 could push out HD to a monitor with more pixels?). If you want HD, sell your apparently horrible 10v and buy a computer with NVIDIA ION and an Intel CULV processor.

To me, without a 1366x768 screen (which is not available on the 10v), HD video playback is little more than a benchmark.

And concerning your talk about people overclocking their Eee PCs, you realize that will kill the processor, right? The built-in Super Hybrid Engine in the Eee PCs only overclock to a max of 1.75GHz, and there are heat issues with that. And you blame Dell for not allowing overclocking for a computer with no fan that already runs warm?

Now, after popping your huge ego and self-superiority, I can safely say:

"Shut the hell up!" - Bender
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Old 01-11-2010, 11:51 PM
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If you purchased a netbook with a screen that cannot display HD content, why would you bother watching HD content? (oh well, there goes this thread, or! maybe you should direct the question at the person who made this guide)(And, if you say back "Well, I was gonna use an external monitor!" do you really think the (in your re-phrased words) bad performing N270 could push out HD to a monitor with more pixels?).(last time i checked the video out was controlled by the integrated graphics, and not the PROCESSOR. so the answer is yes, it the playback would be the same regardless of the resolution, because the processor is forced to decode the video, any more questions, professor?)If you want HD, sell your apparently horrible 10v and buy a computer with NVIDIA ION and an Intel CULV processor.
(sure, i've been using my 10v as a seedbox, works wonderfully)
To me, without a 1366x768 screen (which is not available on the 10v), HD video playback is little more than a benchmark.
(excuse me? you're disappointed because your widescreen 10v cant handle 4:3?)

And concerning your talk about people overclocking their Eee PCs, you realize that will kill the processor, right? The built-in Super Hybrid Engine in the Eee PCs only overclock to a max of 1.75GHz, and there are heat issues with that. And you blame Dell for not allowing overclocking for a computer with no fan that already runs warm?
(I suggest you do more research, people are doing 2.0 on air, and no overheat what-so-ever)

Now, after popping your huge ego and self-superiority, I can safely say:

"Shut the hell up!" - Bender
heres a quote from me:

u mad? chump?
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:22 AM
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heres a quote from me:

u mad? chump?
You really don't know how it works, do you? Even if you are correct about the GMA OUTPUTTING video instead of the N270 (which, granted, you are), you would still have the N270 DECODING video. Like you said, the N270 was at 100% capacity. The GMA 950 has the world's shittiest hardware decode support, so the majority of the work is still put onto the processor. If you don't believe me, go plug your 10v into a TV and try to play 720p.

BTW, as for your "quote," I have only this to say:

"BITE MY SHINY METAL ASS!" - Bender
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:41 AM
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You really don't know how it works, do you? Even if you are correct about the GMA OUTPUTTING video instead of the N270 (which, granted, you are), you would still have the N270 DECODING video. Like you said, the N270 was at 100% capacity. The GMA 950 has the world's shittiest hardware decode support, so the majority of the work is still put onto the processor. If you don't believe me, go plug your 10v into a TV and try to play 720p.

BTW, as for your "quote," I have only this to say:

"BITE MY SHINY METAL ASS!" - Bender
oh dear god please tell me you are trolling me and laughing about it

i wonder why you constantly contradict yourself then, after all of bashing, agree that i was right, then continue to grab what i said then rephrase in your own little way. i dont know dude, get some sleep and stop throwing a tantrum.
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I've followed your guide for my Mini 10v (1011) and its awesome BUT:

I'd like to add something for those who are looking to do this upgrade, the HD video will be and ONLY be playable with Media Player Classic- Home Cinema......So if you try to watch a video on youtube HD or on the Itunes Store in HD for example, it won't be fluid.......

Thanks again EmViper1 for this guide !
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Old 01-19-2010, 04:21 AM
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I've followed your guide for my Mini 10v (1011) and its awesome BUT:

I'd like to add something for those who are looking to do this upgrade, the HD video will be and ONLY be playable with Media Player Classic- Home Cinema......So if you try to watch a video on youtube HD or on the Itunes Store in HD for example, it won't be fluid.......

Thanks again EmViper1 for this guide !
The "fluid hd video" will be playable on any media player as long as they support external decoders. (mplayer, smplayer, zoomplayer)
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Old 01-19-2010, 04:47 PM
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The "fluid hd video" will be playable on any media player as long as they support external decoders. (mplayer, smplayer, zoomplayer)
so Im assuming you tried this and it works? As you can see its worked for at least three people and would like you to delete your negative posts some that have nothing to do with my guide... its a wast of space and energy..
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:02 AM
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so Im assuming you tried this and it works? As you can see its worked for at least three people and would like you to delete your negative posts some that have nothing to do with my guide... its a wast of space and energy..
Read what hayden and I have written above, you can see that we both agree on that the 10v cant handle 720p let alone 1080p.

and lol, i guess having a few people replying that "it werks!!1" clearly means it does and that those people know what they are doing.
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I just did this using my n280. Doubt it makes much of a difference vs. the n270. I had it outputting to my 720p television at 1280x768. Playback stuttered at 1360x768 so I turned it down. I watched an episode of Fullmetal Alchemist with action scenes and no frame rate drop. I also watched a 720p TV episode. Both files were h264 720p in an mkv container.

It is absolutely possible to do this on an HDTV in 720p. I don't have a 1080p TV. You have to be careful using MPC and predict when a CPU usage spike would occur. If you need to seek or rewind, pause the video first and have the task manager open on the other screen. Wait for it to drop down and resume video. My cpu usage hovered around 40-60% the entire time. Note I could not do anything else on the computer but that's no biggie! I'm running Win7 professional with Aero on and 1GB RAM.

Just fired up a 720p Ong Bak action scene on my 10v and core2duo desktop. Displayed statistics in MPC, both maintained 24 fps the whole time. The 10v varied from 23.9x to 24.1x but the **** works - I didn't notice a difference. The core2 maintained a solid 24.00 fps
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