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Default Airport turns off after 2-3 minutes - 06-24-2009, 12:40 PM

I recently installed 10.5.7 using mechdrew's one USB method. Airport worked well in first few days, but now after 2-3 minutes it turns off. WLAN is enabled. Airport worked consistently with 10.5.6. I reinstalled the system last night but have the same issue, it detects the network the browser launches to a site then the airport icon shows it has turned off. Anybody has any suggestions about how to fix this. Useless without net access.
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Default 06-24-2009, 10:56 PM

Mine did that too right after the 10.5.7 upgrade. I just deleted the interface in the preference pane and closed system prefs. Re-opened and it detected the new interface and I applied the changes. For safe measure, I re ran DellEFI and it has been perfect ever since.
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Default 06-25-2009, 02:02 AM

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Mine did that too right after the 10.5.7 upgrade. I just deleted the interface in the preference pane and closed system prefs. Re-opened and it detected the new interface and I applied the changes. For safe measure, I re ran DellEFI and it has been perfect ever since.
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Thanks, can you explain what you mean by the interface--do you mean the airport connection that is located in the pane with the ethernet connection. If so, did you not have to create another one, the machine just created one itself. Also Which DellEFI did you run. Thanks.
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Default 06-25-2009, 12:30 PM

I had exactly the same issue. Following an install using the DellEfi method, the Airport worked fine initially. Then after about a week, it would work for a few minutes before turning itself off and was then impossible to turn on without a restart of Mac OS.

I did a full re-install, installing 10.5.5, applying the combo update to 10.5.7, followed by all downloaded patches from Apple and then using XSlimmer to save space. This was even worse with the Mini 9 booting into Mac OS, the wifi indicator coming up briefly for a couple of seconds and then the Airport shutting itself down. I tried deleting the airport and re-adding it in network preferences, but the 'add' would not work. Each time I went back into the network preferences dialogue box, the Airport had disappeared. After this it was completely impossible to use wifi.

I've now attempted a full reinstall again, only with the 10.5.5 and combo update, and this time the Airport seems to be working well. I'll apply the Apple Software Updates and cross my fingers that the Airport doesn't break again.

Does anybody have any idea why it's not possible to turn the Airport back on after it goes off? Is there something I'm missing here?

(In my bios setup I have both legacy USB and Bluetooth disabled)

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Default 06-25-2009, 02:07 PM

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I had exactly the same issue. Following an install using the DellEfi method, the Airport worked fine initially. Then after about a week, it would work for a few minutes before turning itself off and was then impossible to turn on without a restart of Mac OS.

I did a full re-install, installing 10.5.5, applying the combo update to 10.5.7, followed by all downloaded patches from Apple and then using XSlimmer to save space. This was even worse with the Mini 9 booting into Mac OS, the wifi indicator coming up briefly for a couple of seconds and then the Airport shutting itself down. I tried deleting the airport and re-adding it in network preferences, but the 'add' would not work. Each time I went back into the network preferences dialogue box, the Airport had disappeared. After this it was completely impossible to use wifi.

I've now attempted a full reinstall again, only with the 10.5.5 and combo update, and this time the Airport seems to be working well. I'll apply the Apple Software Updates and cross my fingers that the Airport doesn't break again.

Does anybody have any idea why it's not possible to turn the Airport back on after it goes off? Is there something I'm missing here?

(In my bios setup I have both legacy USB and Bluetooth disabled)

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You describe exactly what is happening to me. Mechdrew gave me some suggestions on how to install up to 10.5.6. My hunch is that 10.5.7 is doing this. I am not clear on what you said" """ I've now attempted a full reinstall again, only with the 10.5.5 and combo update""""is this the 10.5.7 combo update. Thanks

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Default 06-25-2009, 03:08 PM

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You describe exactly what is happening to me. Mechdrew gave me some suggestions on how to install up to 10.5.6. My hunch is that 10.5.7 is doing this. I am not clear on what you said" """ I've now attempted a full reinstall again, only with the 10.5.5 and combo update""""is this the 10.5.7 combo update. Thanks

TALA
Yes, I reinstalled from the 10.5.5 retail DVD (via USB stick) and then applied the combo 10.5.7 update and so far everything is fine. The Airport hasn't turned itself off even once since then, so it looks like the combo update doesn't cause the problem, at least not so far.

What I haven't done yet is applied the 'Software Update...' via the Apple Menu, so I wonder if that's not what is causing the problem. I had applied ALL available patches on both previous attempts when the Airport became flakey.

Did you apply the online patches? I see to remember there was an Airport patch recently downloaded on my iMac, but don't remember if Software Update chose this as a patch for the Mini 9.... will check.

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Default 06-25-2009, 03:50 PM

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Yes, I reinstalled from the 10.5.5 retail DVD (via USB stick) and then applied the combo 10.5.7 update and so far everything is fine. The Airport hasn't turned itself off even once since then, so it looks like the combo update doesn't cause the problem, at least not so far.

What I haven't done yet is applied the 'Software Update...' via the Apple Menu, so I wonder if that's not what is causing the problem. I had applied ALL available patches on both previous attempts when the Airport became flakey.

Did you apply the online patches? I see to remember there was an Airport patch recently downloaded on my iMac, but don't remember if Software Update chose this as a patch for the Mini 9.... will check.

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I did not apply any patches. It was solid on 10.5.6. Tell me if it holds up after a week.

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I did not apply any patches. It was solid on 10.5.6. Tell me if it holds up after a week.
Ok, it didn't even last more than a day. The Mini 9 worked perfectly at work all day (plugged in for power). I took it home, and ran it on battery power, connected to my Apple Time Machine via wifi. As soon as the wifi connection became idle, the airport went down.

I've found some interesting comments on the macosxhints forum, refering to real Macbook problems and the issue could be the same (on battery power and wifi idle for a few minutes) ---> http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=56281. In that case it wouldn't be something limited to Mini 9s.

I'll investigate further.

TALA, would this also describe your problem?

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Default 06-26-2009, 11:50 AM

Ok, I think I've found a consistent error message in the system.log. Each time the airport turns off, there is an error message appearing, for example :

Jun 26 13:32:11 scoobys-inspiron-910 airportd[143]: Error: Power unexpectedly off, bailing - Apple80211GetPower = off (0)

TADA, do you get this error message too?

I would guess that the airportd daemon is exiting because for it is either mistakenly detecting that the wifi card has powered down or maybe the wifi card genuinely has powered down for some reason?

Anyone more familiar with airportd have any comment on this? Also, how can one relaunch airportd? Anyone know? (sudo ifconfig en1 up doesn't seem to bring it back)

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Default 06-26-2009, 12:20 PM

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Ok, I think I've found a consistent error message in the system.log. Each time the airport turns off, there is an error message appearing, for example :

Jun 26 13:32:11 scoobys-inspiron-910 airportd[143]: Error: Power unexpectedly off, bailing - Apple80211GetPower = off (0)

TADA, do you get this error message too?

I would guess that the airportd daemon is exiting because for it is either mistakenly detecting that the wifi card has powered down or maybe the wifi card genuinely has powered down for some reason?

Anyone more familiar with airportd have any comment on this? Also, how can one relaunch airportd? Anyone know? (sudo ifconfig en1 up doesn't seem to bring it back)

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To answer your previous post, airport went down whether it was plugged in or on battery after a few minutes. Your second post, the message I have seen is "failed to load com. apple.driver ACPI_SMC platform plugin. The good news is that I reloaded up to 10.5.6 beginning with 10.5 but it still went down after a few minutes, so it was not 10.5.7 as I had thought. In great frustration, I safe booted (mechdrew's step 10) and ran DellEFI1.25a TWICE and that has fixed the problem for the last 15 hours. Checked it last night and 8.00 this am and still working. If you used mechdrew's method 1 either try running DellEFI several times in a safe mode or reinstall. Let the forum know if this works for you.

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