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| Junior Member Posts: 6 Join Date: May 2009 | Hi, I was searching for this all over the internet but I couldn't find any information on using an OEM disk instead of the retail disc (apart from the runcore method). After a bit of playing around I was able to install OSX on my mini using the OEM disc. All you have to do is replace the OSInstall.mpkg file on the OEM disk with the file from a retail disk (see the 8GB SSD guide here Guide Advanced 3: Customizing the Mac OS X Installer | DellEFI | mechdrew for details on modifying the OSInstall.mpkg file). Actually, you only need to modify or replace the "Distribution" file within OSInstall.mpkg. |
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| Member Posts: 48 Join Date: Mar 2009 | |
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| Junior Member Posts: 6 Join Date: May 2009 | Quote:
Ok, but what is the difference between what I suggested and the runcore method using an OEM disk? I was just trying to save someone the hours that it took me to figure it out.FYI: just because you bought a retail disc doesn't make your mackintosh legal,or did you forget about the Apple EULA? A license violation is a license violation. This is straight out of the Apple EULA: 2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. A. Single Use. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. So whether I use my OEM disk from my Mac book to install it on my Dell mini or to install the retail version on non-apple branded hardware, I'm still breaking the license agreement. You can't pick and choose what parts of the agreement you agree with. That's like saying you don't agree with one law but you agree with the others so you'll break the law that is unpopular. | |
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| Senior Member Posts: 230 Join Date: Nov 2008 | Goozy, thanks for reminding me to write a post I've meant to post for quite some time. http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/mac-...-eula-you.html The fourth paragraphs is a brief answer to your question and I'd be happy to elaborate if it's not enough information. The next paragraph also addresses the EULA. I hope you find it helpful. |
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| Junior Member Posts: 6 Join Date: May 2009 | Quote:
I just like to point out that in the EULA Apple states installing on non-apple hardware is against the terms in the EXACT SAME line as it says not to install the single licence disc on multiple machines. I interpret this as the two issues being equally important to them. I know it relieves some of the guilt by buying the retail disc, but I also know we can't pick and choose what terms we agree with. Apple does not make money from selling OS X, they have stated this clearly several times (which is one of the major reasons we have to sneek behind their backs to make hackintoshes). Apple makes their money from selling hardware. So like it or not, by installing hackintoshes we are all affecting Apple's bottom line. Apple will never be able to stay in business by charginbg $120 for an OS. | |
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| Senior Member Posts: 230 Join Date: Nov 2008 | I guess my post was not sufficiently clear. The point is that you are free to do what you want and have any opinion but we don't need to retread this stuff on the forum. |
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| Junior Member Posts: 6 Join Date: May 2009 | The point everyone seems to miss about OS X is that it is heavily subsidized by the fact that you have to purchase Apple hardware to go with it. Vista Ultimate retails for $350USD and Microsoft has HUGE market share and economies of scale. If, for a moment, we take that out of consideration and assume apple was on a level playing field with Microsoft and charged $350 for OS X that is $220 more then they are charging now. So by being so generous and buying the retail copy of osx, you are actually costing Apple $220. I just wanted to point that out. I know, I know, it’s better that Apple loses $220 vs $350 but it's still wrong and you have to accept that and get off you're moral high horse. You are just as guilty of theft as someone who used their copy of osx on more than one machine. At least with an OEM disc you have to already be a Mac owner to have the disc. But anyone can go into the store and buy the retail copy. If you really wanted to be guilt free, you should buy three copies of OS X and only use one. And what happens when 10.6 comes out? You think it's still reasonable to pay the $29 to upgrade? If you only knew how much developer man hours went into producing the OS I bet things would change. I guess you just choose to ignore that. |
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| Junior Member Posts: 25 Join Date: May 2009 | I think part of it is that people just aren't used to businesses (especially big businesses) operating on the honor/trust basis. Heck, the whole history of modern personal computing has basically been an escalating arms race between companies and people trying to use their software for free. No one feels morally obliged to think about whether Microsoft or Blizzard or whoever is being paid fairly because we all operate on the assumption that by the time we get to use the product, we've already been ripped for as much as they can possibly get. Not that it excuses it, but it's hard to get past the mindset that "I've already given them what it said on the price tag, how can they possibly have more restrictions on what I can do with this product in my own home?" |
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| Senior Member Posts: 170 Join Date: Feb 2009 | goozy, i am with you 100% in this forum, many people believe that if they buy a retail copy of OSX, they are justified in hackintoshing. this isn't true, as per the terms of the EULA. in fact, there's so much stigma against using a OEM/other means that people feel it necessary to let others know that they are doing the "right" thing. if you go to general chat and read threads like "what's on your Mini 9?" or "how much did you spend?", many people will blatantly indicate that they used a retail copy of OSX to ward off any potential criticism. edit: i remember when i first started posting on this forum and i asked a question regarding OEM usage for hackintoshing. boy, was that a wrong move lol. http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/mac-...all-discs.html my favorite line of all was this: Quote:
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| Senior Member Posts: 230 Join Date: Nov 2008 | The question really isn't about legality, it's about respect. A lot of people who have worked hard to get OS X running on the Mini have stated a preference that their method is to be used with a retail copy with a spare license. The least you owe the members of this forum who put time into writing code and tutorials is to not force them to reread the same arguments and insults over again every time someone new joins the forum and gets upset. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but this is a help forum, not a debate society. |
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