[deadlyvirus]

Any flashing of the BIOS has that risk.

[underwhelmed]

Originally Posted by Sparx

I had problems making the 10.5.6 to 10.5.7 upgrade. I noticed issues with the mini 9 not recognizing usb devices plugged in to the ports after starting the computer--they had to be in a the time I turned the machine on and couldn't just be plugged in afterwards. Searching the forums didn't show any articles about others experiencing this problem, so I though I might need to update from the A04 BIOS to A06.

At the risk of deviating off topic, I called Dell today to help me install the BIOS upgrades from A04 to A05--I didn't actually see the A06 upgrade on the site yet; maybe I have to upgrade from A04 to A05 before it shows me A06? Anyway, I got error messages that the WinPhlash (sp?) tool couldn't upgrade the BIOS, and while working with the Dell technical staff to install the BIOS upgrade the mini 9 became a complete brick. I've learned that there is a motherboard fault that can cause this problem and now it must go back to Dell for a motherboard replacement because it won't even turn on any more. I'm glad it is under warranty.

Let my little computer's death be an example to others -- if you're trying to upgrade from the A04 BIOS to the A05/A06 BIOS be warned that there is a possibility of bricking your computer. Not as a result of anything to do with the Mac OS X install, but because of a possible latent defect in the motherboard. Consequently, I recommend upgrading to the most recent BIOS with the Windows software still installed and before attempting to install OS X, just in case you have to send it back to Dell for repair.

I won't see my mini 9 back and in working condition for at least two weeks. On the bright side, by the time I get it back the folks here will probably have figured out how to install Snow Leopard.

- Sparx

Yeah,just a little off topic.

[bmcclure937]

Originally Posted by Carlos

How is it not ethical? If Apple didn't want to allow it to install on a blank disc they would have created the installer so it couldn't. The disc is labeled "Snow Leopard Upgrade." There is not a disc called Snow Leopard Full or whatever. That's how it comes.

Maybe you should read my other comments on the forum regarding this topic before you "preach" to me about something. And you should also do your research because Apple is selling a "Full Version"...

Like I said, I am not discussing this any further in this thread because it is off-topic... you can read my thoughts elsewhere if you are really that concerned.

[mrnagrom]

Where did you see a full version. i just bought the upgrade at the store and didn't see it. the only full version i've encountered was when i bought snow leopard server.

[deadlyvirus]

Originally Posted by mrnagrom

Where did you see a full version. i just bought the upgrade at the store and didn't see it. the only full version i've encountered was when i bought snow leopard server.

Upgrade IS full version.

[Carlos]

Originally Posted by mrnagrom

Where did you see a full version. i just bought the upgrade at the store and didn't see it. the only full version i've encountered was when i bought snow leopard server.

Originally Posted by deadlyvirus

Upgrade IS full version.

That's exactly what I said but dude above seems to disagree.

[meklort]

The upgrade disk is not *Licensed* as a full disk.
You can buy Snow leopard for new installs (aka, a full disk) by purchasing the Mac box set.

Yes, the disks are the same, but that isn't the point of the discussion. Just because Apple doesn't include DRM doesn't make it any more ethical to use the upgrade disk.

[bmcclure937]

Originally Posted by meklort

The upgrade disk is not *Licensed* as a full disk.
You can buy Snow leopard for new installs (aka, a full disk) by purchasing the Mac box set.

Yes, the disks are the same, but that isn't the point of the discussion. Just because Apple doesn't include DRM doesn't make it any more ethical to use the upgrade disk.

Thank You

Some people just do not get the point unless it is pounded into their head

(or unless there is an registration/activation that yells at them!)

[thaddeussmith]

Originally Posted by bmcclure937

Thank You

Some people just do not get the point unless it is pounded into their head

(or unless there is an registration/activation that yells at them!)

get off your horse. installing OS X on non-apple hardware is in violation of their EULA, regardless of how many physical copies of the installation media you own. there is no grey area on the matter .wrong is wrong is wrong. either accept that what we are doing is wrong, or don't perform the hack ..but stop trying to make yourself feel better by saying you bought the install disc.

[GreyPaint]

There is, in many people's eyes, a major difference between total pirating and 'adjustment' of the EULA to run on PCs. XP versions of discs for multiple user licences, can be installed on any machine - but not legally and morally even installing on PCs outside the licence breaks this.

With Snow Leopard, the DVD is an upgrade product - pure and simple. The fact it can run without an underlying OS, encourages 'some' to break the moral licence.

On this forum, it was set from the beginning, that to morally keep close to the EULA, licences should be purchased and not 'pirated' - like many OSX sites have done, in creating built images for machine type....

You may disagree, and that is your prerogative - but the contributors - especially around 5 people on this site - like the ones above - write code for this forum as this conformity makes them happy. You break the rules, then 'morally' why should you run their patches?

Don't go spouting your pish about the EULA and trying to 'steal' what you can.....