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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Olalla, WA
01-07-2010, 03:51 AM
They've been doing that for a long time. There was one guy who was making a fortune selling Mini9's with it preloaded, promising all kinds of compatibility and capabilities that the Mini9 with OSX just flat did not have at the time. He had sold about 30 of them by the time eBay (or possibly Apple themselves) shut him down. I imagine Apple sent eBay a letter explaining in no uncertain terms that they would not tolerate them running auctions for hackintoshes.
Hackintoshing should remain a personal hobby, not a professional venture (see Psystar, they're screwed).
Join Date: Jan 2009
01-08-2010, 03:43 AM
I complained to eBay since my revised listing removed all references to OS X or the ability to install OS X on the unit. I'm not exactly sure how I'm supposed to sell my netbook as a simple netbook with Windows XP if Apple going to throw a hissy fit just because the computer happens to be compatible with their own operating system. Just 'cause I mentioned OS X in a previous listing has no bearing on subsequent listings.
Join Date: Jan 2009
01-08-2010, 09:03 PM
I know. It's just frustrating when I try to learn from my error and post the auction within guidelines only to be told, "no," again.
I actually got a response from eBay within a few hours. They basically said that they don't want to get involved and I should contact Apple (they provided the appropriate details). They also said that if Apple does not respond to my inquiry within 5 business days, to let them know and they would contact Apple on my behalf. Overall, the guy was very pleasant (despite the fact that portions of the e-mail were very canned, he took the time to address specific questions unique to my e-mail).
I've since re-posted it, removing every OS X related element. What was left before was the Aurora wallpaper in a screenshot. This time I took photos of the unit with the beautiful (gag) XP, rolling meadow. I also added that the netbook has Windows XP installed on it. Hopefully it stays up this time. If not, I'll actually contact Apple since it will be obvious at that point that they're just picking on me.
eBay's policy (which I completely understand given the volume they deal with) is to not investigate claims but just to honour the plaintiff's request until it's resolved. What is frustrating for me (but again, I cannot really fault eBay) is that at no point does eBay say to Apple, "Um.. How exactly is it a violation of your IP that this guy is selling a Dell machine with Microsoft software?"
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New Hampshire
01-09-2010, 03:08 AM
I've run into this before with a different company (Bose). eBay doesn't know why the VERO request was made to take down your auction, they just do it. It's usually a law firm that is actually trolling the auctions looking for what they think of as violations, and they are rarely helpful in explaining what they didn't like.
What I have learned is to not copy photos or text from the manufacturer's web site - link to it instead. In some cases, the manufacturer will kill any international sales (they did with the Bose SoundDock I auctioned.)
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