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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 12-22-2008, 03:44 PM

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I can see how it runs slower at times using the CF card, but considering what this thing's job is I don't think it's going to matter one bit. Most of what I'm seeing is slight delays while installing stuff, handling print jobs and file requests shouldn't tax it too much.

My REAL curiosity is over how long the CF card will reliably act as a 24/7 OS drive, even with virtual memory turned off.
It's a fast, modern, industrial card but I've never put a device like this to the test before.
(I still have the HD-installed OS on one of the HDs as a backup)
Given the choice of OS (I'm a huge Debian fan for fileserver/print servers, but Unix isn't for everyone), I believe what you're seeing with the "runs slower at times" is the writes to the CF card. Writes to Flash media are always slower than reads. I'll agree; file requests (off those nice SATA drives ) should pose no slow-downs at all for a system like this.

Is there a way to move the print queue in XP onto a separate drive or partition? If so, you could dedicate a sliver of that 2tb to handling your print jobs and save wear and tear on the CF card. :ugeek:

I'm SO wanting to start ordering parts now to tinker with . . .


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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 12-22-2008, 05:31 PM

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Given the choice of OS (I'm a huge Debian fan for fileserver/print servers, but Unix isn't for everyone), I believe what you're seeing with the "runs slower at times" is the writes to the CF card. Writes to Flash media are always slower than reads. I'll agree; file requests (off those nice SATA drives ) should pose no slow-downs at all for a system like this.

Is there a way to move the print queue in XP onto a separate drive or partition? If so, you could dedicate a sliver of that 2tb to handling your print jobs and save wear and tear on the CF card. :ugeek:

I'm SO wanting to start ordering parts now to tinker with . . .
I don't know how to do that! Heck I didn't even know about it until I read your post! Any instructions or advice?
I WAS thinking of maybe giving virtual memory some room on one of the HDs, you know just for if it needs it.


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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 12-22-2008, 06:14 PM

According to these instructions, it looks damn simple to move the print queue.

Some quick Googling has revealed that there's a way to move the swap file too... So you can give it some virtual memory back, should you want to.

Offload those write-intensive tasks to a spinning disk instead of the CF card, and you're rarely (if ever) writing to the flash drive. That'll increase the lifespan of the CF card quite a lot.

In an interesting twist, you could dedicate an old SD card to a mini and map its swap file to it, should you find yourself really needing the virtual memory. However, it would burn out the SD card pretty quickly. :shock:

Please, post your findings when you get it rolling like you want it!


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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 12-22-2008, 11:40 PM

Interesting note on the SD slot:

I have a little 1gb card that I've set up with a suite of "Portable Applications" that I can insert to give me some regular programs to use if I need to temporarily press the server into service doing regular comuter stuff.

Awesome tips! I'll be tinkering further over time so I'll report my results.

When I walked out the door to head to work today the entire system including router and modem was drawing 30 watts through my UPS with the disks spun down and monitor and printer sleeping.


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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 12-23-2008, 05:56 PM

Hey Strider, you running any app that tells you mobo and hdd temps? just curious. My northbridge seems to run about 10- 15 c hotter than rest of system(49-52c for nb, 25-39c for rest of sys). thanks


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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 12-23-2008, 09:08 PM

My dual core Atom motherboard arrived today. (Well, sort of, I met the UPS truck at the bottom of the snow covered hill leading to my neighborhood, hahaha) It's installing OS X right now. It fit into the Dell case AMAZINGLY well. The front audio jacks plugged right into the header on the new motherboard. I think the pinout is right,as the plug on the cable was yellow, and so was the plug on the motherboard. They also had a key pin in the same place. Good chance it's going to work, if the OSX drivers support it. And then there was the multicard reader, which was USB, and the two front USB ports. They both plugged right into the motherboard. Very cool. I'm going to pick up a PCI (not PCI Express) GeForce 6200 on eBay so that the machine will have DVI output. The 6200 should work properly in OSX.. We'll see.


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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 12-24-2008, 05:54 AM

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Hey Strider, you running any app that tells you mobo and hdd temps? just curious. My northbridge seems to run about 10- 15 c hotter than rest of system(49-52c for nb, 25-39c for rest of sys). thanks
I'm not aware of any, but it's a thought.
Generally when it settles down the fan spins much slower so a rough guess would be less heat when idle but some diagnostics would give me something more to fiddle with.


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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 01-04-2009, 03:02 PM

Just got around to moving the 500gb drive into the server. (I procrastinated on that one, sorry.)
2TB of storage. Time to start ripping some ISOs. :twisted:

It looks like the temps aren't outrageous.
The chipset does run hotter. It's not as power efficient as the CPU.

I'll see if I can grab a screen shot after the system has had time to settle in.


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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 01-04-2009, 04:10 PM

strider_mt2k - Did you migrate your print queue and swap file off the CF card?

How's that going?


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Default Re: Check this Atom-based system out - 01-04-2009, 06:24 PM

My pagefile is off on one of the hard drives now but I haven't messed with the printer thing yet at all.

Until I get XP Pro's VPN thing worked out I'm using Hamachi to share some files w/my bro out of state.
It's slow, but VERY easy to set up and use.


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