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Default 11-30-2009, 08:23 AM

Ever make the jump between MS Office 2003 and 2007? They did just that, jumping from menus to "the ribbon" -- with no means of sticking with what you know. VERY frustrating.

There's "being bold" and there's being unusable. I HATE the ribbon and wish they had never even mentioned it, much less used it. So, yeah. It looks like I'm on Open Office or something else from here on. I spent 8 years learning and using the menu system, and I still can't find everything I need under the ribbon.

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IMHO sometimes MS holds on too much to legacy ideas and needs to be bold enough to fix some of them. Not sure what they are afraid of, they control the market, people will complain but they will get use to the change. Not like they will jump to Linux or OS X because MS changed some keystrokes.


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Default 11-30-2009, 10:24 AM

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Do you have drag it to the trash every time you want to delete something?
And it doesn't ask you whether you really meant to, or it was just a slip of the mouse
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Default 11-30-2009, 03:39 PM

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talk about VMS, bet you never heard of PICK...
You'd lose. I've heard of PICK, but never used it. I was a developer on VMS for DEC for 20+ years.


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Default 11-30-2009, 07:15 PM

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Ever make the jump between MS Office 2003 and 2007? They did just that, jumping from menus to "the ribbon" -- with no means of sticking with what you know. VERY frustrating.

There's "being bold" and there's being unusable. I HATE the ribbon and wish they had never even mentioned it, much less used it. So, yeah. It looks like I'm on Open Office or something else from here on. I spent 8 years learning and using the menu system, and I still can't find everything I need under the ribbon.
I have to disagree, the main reason for the switch to the ribbon was to make the options that were in the menus easier to find and quicker to use e.g. inserting a picture:

Office XP/2003:

1. Click on Insert Menu
2. Point to Picture
3. Click "from file"

Office 2007/2010:

1. Click the Insert tab
2. Click on Picture

Sure, it's only one less click and there are other, longer, examples but this just highlights what the ribbon is for. I know it takes time to learn what ribbon the commands are on but it's a much more intuitive interface.

I also find that i'm more productive on Office 2007/2010 than I ever was on Office XP/2003, primarily because I can get on with my work, and not spend half an hour or more looking for one command in the menus or on the toolbar.


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Default 12-02-2009, 12:34 PM

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Would it be THAT hard to simply code the damn thing so that hitting "d" for "don't save" does the trick to save me the hassle of bringing my hand back to the mouse to manually click on the button? That drives me crazy.
Command-D will select "Don't save". Command-. (that's a period) will select "Cancel", and Enter/Return will select "Save".

I usually use my thumb on the Command key - you can quickly hit the other buttons that way.
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Default 12-02-2009, 05:23 PM

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You'd lose. I've heard of PICK, but never used it. I was a developer on VMS for DEC for 20+ years.
... and there's us all thinking that you are a young man!


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