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Default 10-31-2009, 01:10 AM

Vista was originally only supposed to be release in 2003 as a minor step between Windows XP and Blackcomb (7), which was planned to be the company's next major operating system release, but that failed because they ended up trying to put more of Blackcomb's features in Vista, delaying it.

Then they had to work on all the XP security holes, so Vista was delayed again...

Then they decided to scrap Blackcomb completely (originally it was based on XP's code), and they decided to just take the stuff from Vista and put it into the Blackcomb OS (Vista's codename was Longhorn).


So Windows 7 is pretty much what it's supposed to be. The next "big" OS for M$ after XP. The fact that they actually thought they needed to release Vista because XP was getting "old" was stupid.


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Default 10-31-2009, 02:21 AM

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They just don't want to call it Vista, and I don't blame them.
I don't blame them either, the label Vista has a very bad, and in my opinion undeserved, reputation.

Anyway, R2 is just bad marketing. They are calling the new Server 2008 release that is based on the Win7 codebase Server 2008 R2, which confuses the hell out of most people. Even the manager of the IT department I work in, who does the server maintenance and administration for our organisation, didn't know that 2008 R2 was the 7 release until I mentioned to him it a month or so back.

Windows 7 is different enough to Vista to deserve it's own moniker. If it was named Vista *anything* it wouldn't have a shot to make a name for itself. Yes it's got a Vista base, but we don't (or shouldn't) treat children based on the reputation of their parents, so give 7 a chance to stand on it's on feet?

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Default 10-31-2009, 11:48 AM

IIRC, there was a major code rewrite in Vista after a good majority of it was already written. I forget all the reasons, but I suspect that didn't help.


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Default 10-31-2009, 02:52 PM

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IIRC, there was a major code rewrite in Vista after a good majority of it was already written. I forget all the reasons, but I suspect that didn't help.
I remember that too. Longhorn was going to have this massive database centric file system (among other things) that was going to revolutionize computing, cure cancer, you get the drift. The guts got ripped out in favor of the current file system, and here we stand.

My take on all of it was that Vista got shoved out the door in response to market (vendor?) pressure to get out the upgrade that would drive the sales of languishing hardware advances, and in the process Microsoft fell flat on its face with a successor to Windows ME. I'd bet my bankroll that Windows 7 is pretty much what Vista was intended to be (sans the super-doper file system). I'm not complaining - to me it is vastly better than just being Vista SP3 - but it's not the sea change of Windows NT.

In fact, maybe Microsoft has paid Apple the ultimate compliment by striving for a computer environment that "just works?"


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Default 11-09-2009, 03:29 AM

I've been using 7 since launch day on my Mini 9 and am really pleasantly surprised by its performance! It feels even snappier than when I had UNR 9.04 on it. Wake from sleep seems just as fast as my Macbook and the wireless actually reconnects faster.

Everything is subjective, of course. Since this isn't my primary machine, I actuall enjoy installing new OS's on it to try and find one that works. So far, it looks like 7 is going to be a keeper!!
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Default 11-09-2009, 04:13 AM

i have vista on two mini 9's with ZERO problems.
thats not opinion, its fact.
this is a die hard win.7 site.
win 7 may be great but that doesn't mean anyone with anything to say to the opposite is a liar or should be flamed. period.
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Default 11-09-2009, 10:22 AM

Hi Faber 78,

This appears to be your first post in this particular thread, and I can see no accusations of lying having been made here at all, and no evidence of what I would call serious flaming either.

We all have our ‘favourite’ operating systems be they OS X, a Unix derivative, XP, Vista, Windows 7, or whatever, and obviously like to discuss and compare them on Forums such as this one.

You obviously like Vista, and if it suits your needs, then there is obviously no real reason for you to change (unless of course you wish to compare one OS with another) and no one is forcing you to do so.

...and as for your statement that this is a ‘die hard’ site Windows 7 site, I was actually coming to the opinion that it is virtually being taken over by the ‘hakintoshes’ and OS X fans, but there you go... that’s just me!


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Default 11-09-2009, 03:22 PM

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Hi Faber 78,

This appears to be your first post in this particular thread, and I can see no accusations of lying having been made here at all, and no evidence of what I would call serious flaming either.

We all have our ‘favourite’ operating systems be they OS X, a Unix derivative, XP, Vista, Windows 7, or whatever, and obviously like to discuss and compare them on Forums such as this one.

You obviously like Vista, and if it suits your needs, then there is obviously no real reason for you to change (unless of course you wish to compare one OS with another) and no one is forcing you to do so.

...and as for your statement that this is a ‘die hard’ site Windows 7 site, I was actually coming to the opinion that it is virtually being taken over by the ‘hakintoshes’ and OS X fans, but there you go... that’s just me!
^good points, well put, and well handled.
thank you.
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