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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Olalla, WA
Re: Why Mini 12 has different processor than Mini 9? - 12-04-2008, 05:22 PM
I have had so many bad things to say about the 12 since it was announced that I try to keep myself out of the Mini12 section now. I feel like a troll at times. Kind of going on the "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all".. But.. Since this thread is all about what a POS the 12 is..
First of all, you forgot one big point of suckage.. The CCFL backlit LCD.. The Mini9 has an LED backlit LCD.. Lasts longer, TONS more reliable, uses less power, doesn't contain mercury.
As for upgrades in the future, don't count on it, not only is it using a weaker CPU, it's got a weaker chipset. The Poulsbo chipset can't use more than 1gb of ram. Which is why they just went ahead and soldered the ram to the CPU cartridge. Yeah.. CPU cartridge.. What is this, a Pentium II?
They upped the screen to 12" and still couldn't figure out how to make a full size keyboard? Odd.. I've owned 12" laptops in the past without that problem.
12" is too big to be in whatever category they had planned on. It's not Ultra Mobile, because it's the size of a laptop, it's not a netbook because it only comes with Vista. The battery life in the thing sucks, you have to upgrade to the large battery to get the kind of battery life we already get with the 9. Probably due to the combination of a mechanical HDD, and the poor LCD backlighting.
Someone needs to do another 7" netbook, but this time do it witha high resolution 7" screen (1280x768 at least), make the unit no bigger than the screen (no screwball bezel that makes the 7" screen look like it's in a 9" housing). Make the keyboard fold out/slide out wider than the unit so you can have a full size/nearly full size keyboard (7" keyboard wouldn't be too useful).. Seems like a good idea to me, but I'm getting off topic now..
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Re: Why Mini 12 has different processor than Mini 9? - 12-04-2008, 06:45 PM
Personally I think Dell should have just made a 10.1" netbook like everybody else. For a lot of people that's the right size.
I think the Poulsbo choice was interesting. In theory it has advantages, in particular lower power. But as you say it means you are limited to 1GB of RAM and PATA only. It was also supposed to have better graphics performance, in particular the ability to handle 1080i video.
I assume the Vista choice was driven by Poulsbo driver availability or something, and that Dell will switch to XP, or offer XP as an option at some point soon. That's what laptop.com are saying anyway.
The hard drive choice was driven by wanting to make it thin, so they ended up with a 1.8" drive. Just like the Macbook Air. Problem is so far these are only 4,200rpm drives. Which means they have sucky performance. Probably should have just stuck with SSDs. If you're going to do a 1.8" hard disk, the performance path appears to be SATA (Toshiba has announced 5,400 rpm drives, but only in SATA), and Poulsbo keeps you from doing that.
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Re: Why Mini 12 has different processor than Mini 9? - 12-04-2008, 11:02 PM
My $0.02 USD is that the Dell Mini 12 is a reaction to Microsoft. MS are NOT happy with the mainstream marketing for the Mini 9 advertising Ubuntu.
It feels like Dell put together a 12" machine, weighed it down to the bottom of the pool with some rocks, and are waiting for the bubbles to quit. Vista and the 1GB ram limit are shining examples of a) giving MS what it wants, and b) deliberate choices with the engineering of the device to drive away potential customers.
Again, my conspiracy theory has Gates and Balmer in league with demonic hoards and those pesky gray aliens. So take this with a large dose of salt...
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Olalla, WA
Re: Why Mini 12 has different processor than Mini 9? - 12-05-2008, 01:14 AM
You know, I think you may be on to something! Painful to have to skewer your own customers to be able to make a point to MS.. But hey, I'm ok with it.
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