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Unhappy GMA 500 sucks for Videos??? - 01-05-2009, 10:07 PM

I don't know if it's just me or everybody has the same problem. I borrowed my friend's Mini 12 for a day to check out the performance. Mine should be coming this week.

When I play a Video no matter what format it is, the video quality is ****. Everything else is Ok. It goes same for Vista and XP.

I heard about GMA 500 that it's not as good as other GMA cards but I didn't expect it to be this shitful. DivX movies look so horrible. I used VLC latest version on both XP and Vista.

Please tell me If anybody else has the same issues. If yes, then I'm not even gonna bother to open mine and just return it.

I'm looking forward for a fix coz I love everything else about Mini 12.
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Default Re: GMA 500 sucks for Videos??? - 01-06-2009, 04:46 PM

Hi,

i just checked this out with Ubuntu Intrepid and it works fine. It needs a bit time to start but then it looks alright.
But i just checked the first few minutes, used the latest VLC.

What was the problem on XP/Vista?

PS: The GMA500 really sucks
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Default Re: GMA 500 sucks for Videos??? - 04-07-2009, 06:59 PM

I just got a Mini 12 w Ubuntu last week. While the machine is still pretty slow, even w Linux, video performance in particular seems to be the worst. Everything else is marginally tolerable, but any web streamed video I have watched seems to be really jerky slow when compared to any other machine I have on the same network. Slow to the point of NOT even being worth using the machine for YouTube, etc. Pretty disappointing ....
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Default Re: GMA 500 sucks for Videos??? - 04-07-2009, 07:43 PM

i don't understand the problems that a lot of users have with video. i have xp on my mini 12, and as per the sig, its a 1.33. i watch a lot of video, with no problems, be it on youtube, thecomedynetwork.com or muchloud.com. video streams very well, i have no sync problems.

up to this point i have watched about 10 clint eastwood movies and all three seasons of The Mighty Boosh, encoded as h.264 files rangeing in size form 2gb down to aobut 530mb, streamed the first 2 seaons of the john dore show, and watched countless youtube videos.

i have optomized xp a bit, but not that much.

the slow video must be a ubunto thing.

my only complaint is that 720p is only watchable in WMP. for what ever reason, VLC just cant seem to keep the video up with the audio, at all.

having said all that, i have only watched a few hi-def music videos in WMP, not movies , so not gigantic files.


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Default Re: GMA 500 sucks for Videos??? - 04-07-2009, 09:25 PM

Ubuntu user here, the default video player played a 720p HD movie silky smooth out of the box. It just prompted to download a codec then worked right away. However, youtube, hulu, and any other flash-based videos run like crap.

I don't understand how a HD movie can run so smoothly, but youtube chokes the system up. Is this a macromedia flash/linux issue, because if the hardware is capable of running HD videos, certainly it can handle youtube, no?
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Default Re: GMA 500 sucks for Videos??? - 04-21-2009, 03:12 AM

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Ubuntu user here, the default video player played a 720p HD movie silky smooth out of the box. It just prompted to download a codec then worked right away. However, youtube, hulu, and any other flash-based videos run like crap.

I don't understand how a HD movie can run so smoothly, but youtube chokes the system up. Is this a macromedia flash/linux issue, because if the hardware is capable of running HD videos, certainly it can handle youtube, no?
It seems to just be streaming video through a flash client because any site that uses flash video seems to lag a bit for me.. Local video is fine though for some reason. Maybe it just can't process it fast enough while streaming?


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Default Re: GMA 500 sucks for Videos??? - 05-07-2009, 12:16 AM

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I don't know if it's just me or everybody has the same problem. I borrowed my friend's Mini 12 for a day to check out the performance. Mine should be coming this week.

When I play a Video no matter what format it is, the video quality is ****. Everything else is Ok. It goes same for Vista and XP.

I heard about GMA 500 that it's not as good as other GMA cards but I didn't expect it to be this shitful. DivX movies look so horrible. I used VLC latest version on both XP and Vista.

Please tell me If anybody else has the same issues. If yes, then I'm not even gonna bother to open mine and just return it.

I'm looking forward for a fix coz I love everything else about Mini 12.
I agree some video pretty slow and jiggy. Some are unrenderable. I found a solution thought, on windows 7 I say 75% video I can run. the other 25% are just too laggy or slow. So I turn off AERO and ran those 25% video and everything was smooth. The other 75% ran even better. That's windows 7 experience =].

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Default Re: GMA 500 sucks for Videos??? - 05-09-2009, 08:00 AM

My first post I commented on the video playback on the Mini 12. After a month of researching and patience this is what I have found out.

The Intel GMA 500 is actually a pretty decent GPU for a netbook. It's just that Intel didn't make it, so there's seems to have been lot's of politics going on behind the scenes in terms of the software support for the chip. Let's get this correct. I have no idea what people are taking about when it comes to tweaking or optimizing the OS to playback video. In regards to smooth playback, every experience I have had with this system it's either all or nothing. If you have the correct drivers playing back h.264 then Processor load is small (under 25%), and the video should be as smooth as butter with no artifacts. If your running non accelerated video or the wrong software, there is not a snowballs chance in hell, the atom processor at any speed can handle HD video using just raw power. Unless we're talking really small video, even then, the odds are not too good . Now if 6-12 frames per second is acceptable to some people then cool, but I look for full screen, full frame, artifact free HD playback, and the is only achieved with the right software.

Currently I am running Win 7's default video driver and the Intel Codecs from Dell's support site. Full Screen WMV, h.264, MOV plays back nearly perfect. Youtube (even HQ) will play fine in the little window, but as soon as you go full screen expect 3-7 FPS (sad I know). Gametrailers.com streaming WMV works well, other sites that use different codecs who knows how it will play. apple.com (qt based, not flash) plays the commercial up to Large fine, HD starts getting choppy but watchable for most people. Vimeo is a long ways off (1-4 FPS).

The good news is, it might be getting better. I heard there are new drivers now that accelerate youtube and flash. Look for the 1096 driver when it comes. No way in the world the atom can play even standard Def Video well without optimized software.
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Default 05-12-2009, 05:01 PM

According to a post at anandtech, the dell inspiron 12 should have no problems with HD video playback at all -> AnandTech: CES 2009 - Day 1: Netbooks, "Talking" Cars and more
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Default 05-12-2009, 05:03 PM

According to a post at anandtech, the dell inspiron 12 should have no problems with HD video playback at all -> AnandTech: CES 2009 - Day 1: Netbooks, "Talking" Cars and more

As mentioned above, the limitation is not with the GMA500, but rather the memory bandwidth. I guess you just need the right graphics drivers.
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