[lewkskywalker]

Originally Posted by Thorsteenster

It's not 17", it's 10.1"

Looks like it is still available, I just built one and added it to my cart with an expected ship date of 10/28.

BTW, if you've never soldered before, I WOULD NOT recommend learning on a MoBo lol.

Yeah but in total its about $190!

Any other options?

What is a "MoBo" by the way? Also, I am having a computer savy friend help me with the install.... he has tons of soldering experience.

Thanks!

[Thorsteenster]

MoBo is Mother Board, or Main Board.
Even having tons of experience, solder joints on modern electronics are very small, and require a steady hand, fine tips and low watt irons. I've done a ton of soldering, and would try on my own but no way on some one elses.
Good luck though, I hope to see a viable, reliable touch screen for the M10, and soon!

[lewkskywalker]

Originally Posted by Thorsteenster

MoBo is Mother Board, or Main Board.
Even having tons of experience, solder joints on modern electronics are very small, and require a steady hand, fine tips and low watt irons. I've done a ton of soldering, and would try on my own but no way on some one elses.
Good luck though, I hope to see a viable, reliable touch screen for the M10, and soon!

What about the two options I outlined above? Which would you go with?

Also, another question: What does the new touch panel plug into? Is there an existing port available, or does it use the webcam port.... if it uses the webcam port, does a touch screen upgrade effectively wipe out the use of the webcam?

Thanks!

[bsoplinger1]

The mini 9 upgrade uses the webcam mobo connector to get a USB signal. I then feeds that signal to a 4 port USB hub on the touchscreen control board. One of those outputs is saved for the webcam giving 3 other USB ports. The power from the webcam mobo USB port is fed to the hub controller (and then on to the 3 ports and the webcam) and also to the touchscreen controller. So there is a very definite limit to the amount of power of the devices you can plug into those extra ports, also a voltage cap. You can only use things whiich will work on 3.3V vs. 5V.

[lewkskywalker]

Originally Posted by bsoplinger1

The mini 9 upgrade uses the webcam mobo connector to get a USB signal. I then feeds that signal to a 4 port USB hub on the touchscreen control board. One of those outputs is saved for the webcam giving 3 other USB ports. The power from the webcam mobo USB port is fed to the hub controller (and then on to the 3 ports and the webcam) and also to the touchscreen controller. So there is a very definite limit to the amount of power of the devices you can plug into those extra ports, also a voltage cap. You can only use things whiich will work on 3.3V vs. 5V.

Excuse my lack of knowledge, but what I gather is that you are adding a 4 port USB port to the webcam motherboard connector thus giving an extra 3 ports.... one for the webcam, one for the touch screen, and two extras left over? Is that so?

Whats your take on my two options mentioned above?

THANKS!

---------- Post added at 09:39 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:54 AM ----------

Originally Posted by lewkskywalker

Excuse my lack of knowledge, but what I gather is that you are adding a 4 port USB port to the webcam motherboard connector thus giving an extra 3 ports.... one for the webcam, one for the touch screen, and two extras left over? Is that so?

Whats your take on my two options mentioned above?

THANKS!

Ah, I got ya... there is an existing part that converts the USB signal to 4 USB ports.

So if I get this right, there are already three existing free ports?

If thats correct, then it should be as simple as plugging in the cable from the panel to one of the free USB ports. Am I missing something?

Either way, whats your take on my best option? The guy from fido hub said that he'll only give me the free unit if I dont need to solder anything.

Thanks again!

[bsoplinger1]

Although I own both a mini9 and a 10v I've never had them open at the same time to compare connectors. I've always described the 10v as a mini9 with a lower dot pitch panel (lower dot pitch means less pixels per inch hence a larger screen size). That isn't exactly true as the SD card reader on the mini9 sits right on the system bus and needed a custom OS X driver written for it while the reader in the 10v is a USB device. The connector for the built in BlueTooth module is different although the modules themselves are interchangable (different models but the mini9 module will work in a 10v and vis-versa) So they did make changes between the 2 machines.

So I don't know if the webcam connection at the mobo is the same on both machines. That'd be the first place soldering would be required if they weren't. Then the other end of that cable, where it connects to the mobo, well if the female end is different the male end would be also, so more soldering

The isn't any other possible soldering. Not if you're getting the fido/hoda bits you listed.

As for your last question, let me try an ASCI diagram:

                                                                            /  --->>> USB port (spare)
                                                                           /  --->>> webcam (using existing cable)
Mobo USB connection --->>> controller board/hub | --->>> touchscreen (from controller on the board)
                                                                           \  --->>> USB port (spare)

Here is the lnk to the mini9 version that MDD sells:
http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/des...tion_guide.pdf

What's odd, compared to the EeePC I put a touchscreen on is that it only has 2 vs 3 free USB ports. So I changed my diagram to only show 2 spares.

[lewkskywalker]

I took pictures.... here they are. Can anyone tell me what I'll have to do to outfit my custom Hoda unit to my Dell Mini 1010?


Also, I already purchased a unit from hodatechnology that they pieced together for me.... they sent me the following information as well as the last three pictures in this post. The pictures can be found here:

http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/dell...tml#post114752

"Hi Dan,

I will be giving you all the wires with connectors that does not require any soldering. If the connectors do not fit then you will need to do soldering yourself by cutting off the end of connector. "

I think they are giving me a harness for a Mini 9 and a 10.1 inch touch screen from another unit.

ALL feedback/advice is HIGHLY appreciated.

THANKS!

[rock99rock]

Originally Posted by lewkskywalker

I took pictures.... here they are. Can anyone tell me what I'll have to do to outfit my custom Hoda unit to my Dell Mini 1010?


Also, I already purchased a unit from hodatechnology that they pieced together for me.... they sent me the following information as well as the last three pictures in this post. The pictures can be found here:

http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/dell...tml#post114752

"Hi Dan,

I will be giving you all the wires with connectors that does not require any soldering. If the connectors do not fit then you will need to do soldering yourself by cutting off the end of connector. "

I think they are giving me a harness for a Mini 9 and a 10.1 inch touch screen from another unit.

ALL feedback/advice is HIGHLY appreciated.

THANKS!

Originally Posted by lewkskywalker

Thanks so much for the informative quick reply!

I was thinking I would have to hijack an internal USB port anyway. Is it going to be that difficult? My unit from Hoda is coming at the latest on tuesday so I have some time to plan it.

Either way, what exactly will be involved?

I'm in the same boat as you, as my hoda for the Mini 9 shipped out today

If you have soldering skills, it should not be too difficult. I have a Mini 10v, but have not dove in internally as of yet to start adding peripherals. I have seen people solder right to the usb controller chip, but that is not for the faint of heart.

I would think, that you might have to find where the webcam wires are on that connector on the top right of the motherboard. If you can find a schematic of that connector, it would be easier to determine which wires belong to the webcam (ground/data+/-/+5v/etc). When you find that out, you would cut those wires, then extend the ones coming out of the connector, and solder into the respective "to motherboard" wires from the controller/usb hub. Then, solder the "to webcam" wires from the controller/usb hub to the original cut respective wires that lead to the webcam.

I probably could have made that simpler, I just didnt know how

This is all speculation, but its the route I would take if I could not find a more simple solution

[Chileno]

I'm so excited to see how this works out for you!

As much documentation that you can do (pictures/videos/etc.) through the screen replacement will be very helpful for those of us in the future that want to make our own mini 10 touchscreen as well.

I'll keep checking on this thread to see how things work out!

[Thorsteenster]

Well I got my Hoda 9 kit today, and I took my 1010 apart again to check connections. The webcam is piggy backed into the monitor cable, so plug and play is def ruled out. Now, judging by the directions, the 910 webcam is USB(?), so on the 1010 I'm thinking you could either find an onboard USB, or solder into an external USB port from the inside, and place the touch screen module under the palm rest. On mine it has a blank area that looks like it's for some peripheral that wasn't available when I got mine. I would have gone further into it if I had a 10" touch screen overlay, but it really doen't look like it would be all that difficult.
Now off to install it in the 910.......