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Default 07-23-2009, 05:59 AM

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I have a mini 10 and it didn't work. I think every window is too big, I can right click and open up and choose backgrounds, but I can't see the top of the window. Should I try to reinstall it and go through the process again?
Are you talking about Maximizer? Which version of Ubuntu did you install? Did you install the Netremix?

if so you may need to turn Maximizer off. Or Right click the Panel at the bottom for the window you have open and tell it to "UnMaximize"

Do a google search for disabling Maximizer.. Id post the instructions here but im at work and out of time. If i Have time later I will post them


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Default 07-23-2009, 07:58 PM

I reinstalled ubuntu, didn't switch to standard desktop, did the code stuff, everything seemed fine then I got DRM issues. I did not do the updates before doing the code, because I did that last time and I got the error. I am gonna install updates then restart and see what happens.

EDIT: I added the updates and now everything is fine. Great guide!
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I reinstalled ubuntu, didn't switch to standard desktop, did the code stuff, everything seemed fine then I got DRM issues. I did not do the updates before doing the code, because I did that last time and I got the error. I am gonna install updates then restart and see what happens.

EDIT: I added the updates and now everything is fine. Great guide!
Im going to edit the guide to Include how to check your Kernel Version and How to update it.

Good to hear its all working for you.


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Default new packages now - 07-28-2009, 04:54 PM

if you have the ubunut-mobile ppa, there seem to be some good meta packages now for the gma500:

psb-firmware - Binary firmware for the Poulsbo (psb) 3D X11 driver
psb-modules - Kernel module built for -generic or -lpia kernel
psb-kernel-source - Kernel module for the Poulsbo (psb) 2D X11 driver
psb-kernel-headers - Kernel module headers for the Poulsbo (psb) 2D X11 driver
xpsb-glx - X11 drivers for Poulsbo (psb) 3D acceleration
poulsbo-driver-3d - Metapackage for the 3D Poulsbo (psb) X11 driver.
poulsbo-driver-2d - Metapackage for the 2D Poulsbo (psb) X11 driver.


it looks like you can everything now just by doing:

apt-get install poulsbo-driver-2d poulsbo-driver-3d psb-firmware

2d works with correct resolution, video works, 3d works with some occasional hangs. Compiz works but is unstable, so keep it disabled. I was able to install xbmc and it worked mostly, with some problems with some codecs.
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Default 07-29-2009, 02:22 AM

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Im going to edit the guide to Include how to check your Kernel Version and How to update it.

Good to hear its all working for you.
Sammyboy, I did updates on my 1010 and I was not watching what the updates were and it updated the kernel to 2.6.28.14 and now nothing works like it did with 13. Not that it is a big problem as my system is a duel boot system and I just choose the 2.6.28.13 kernel when booting and everything is OK.
But does the drivers work with the 14 kernel or do you have to stick with the 13. My boot up screen is starting to get a little cluttered with 11, 13 and now 14 plus XP on it. fdalbor
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Default 07-29-2009, 02:52 AM

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if you have the ubunut-mobile ppa, there seem to be some good meta packages now for the gma500:

psb-firmware - Binary firmware for the Poulsbo (psb) 3D X11 driver
psb-modules - Kernel module built for -generic or -lpia kernel
psb-kernel-source - Kernel module for the Poulsbo (psb) 2D X11 driver
psb-kernel-headers - Kernel module headers for the Poulsbo (psb) 2D X11 driver
xpsb-glx - X11 drivers for Poulsbo (psb) 3D acceleration
poulsbo-driver-3d - Metapackage for the 3D Poulsbo (psb) X11 driver.
poulsbo-driver-2d - Metapackage for the 2D Poulsbo (psb) X11 driver.


it looks like you can everything now just by doing:

apt-get install poulsbo-driver-2d poulsbo-driver-3d psb-firmware

2d works with correct resolution, video works, 3d works with some occasional hangs. Compiz works but is unstable, so keep it disabled. I was able to install xbmc and it worked mostly, with some problems with some codecs.
I will try and play with those again. But I was not getting the anymore performance out of those than i was with the PSB. And I ended up with more random freezes and very unstable. So Thats why I went with the PSB. But if they have changed and updated those I will Try again. But I fear nothing has changed and things will be just as sluggish or unstable as it was when I first tried them last month. And I didnt even attempt to fool with Compiz or any 3d drivers.


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Default there shouldn't be a difference - 07-29-2009, 04:00 AM

the poulsbo-2d and poulsbo-3d packages are meta packages. If you look at their details they install the same packages as you suggested in your first post, except the 3d package additionally installs the glx support and codec firmware for video.

I now get about 300 fps on glxgears, and most video playback is smmoth. mkv htdy is still pretty hit or miss, regardless of codec, but xvid, divx and h.264 all seem to work fine.
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Default 07-29-2009, 05:18 AM

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the poulsbo-2d and poulsbo-3d packages are meta packages. If you look at their details they install the same packages as you suggested in your first post, except the 3d package additionally installs the glx support and codec firmware for video.

I now get about 300 fps on glxgears, and most video playback is smmoth. mkv htdy is still pretty hit or miss, regardless of codec, but xvid, divx and h.264 all seem to work fine.
Right I Agree.

But where most people are complaining (myself included) is Streaming Video Playback.

Now I Just went ahead and reinstalled as you mentioned. And thus far have seen vast improvement of speed. So Im going to test this a little more and if things go ok and smooth I will modify the guide to show the information to install the 2d/3d packages.

But streaming Web Playback (via YouTube, Vimeo, Etc) are still sluggish at best.

But Everything else is working great. Im Running Kubuntu right now. Id have to load Gnome to see how well it works in Gnome. But It all looks good.


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Default streaming video - 07-29-2009, 06:47 AM

I believe that flash video will turn out to be limited by the atom processor, and the flash client and not the psb driver.

Even if the psb drivers are working correctly 100%, it's still a matter for the playback clients to utilize it's features.

Some of the decoders work nicely with the psb and utilize it's hardware decoding. I believe ffmpeg and gstreamer based decoders are working ok.

Streaming internet video, on the other hand, will be dependent on the flash client, and the flash client just may not be setup to take proper advantage of the gma500 yet.
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Default 07-29-2009, 06:23 PM

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I believe that flash video will turn out to be limited by the atom processor, and the flash client and not the psb driver.

Even if the psb drivers are working correctly 100%, it's still a matter for the playback clients to utilize it's features.

Some of the decoders work nicely with the psb and utilize it's hardware decoding. I believe ffmpeg and gstreamer based decoders are working ok.

Streaming internet video, on the other hand, will be dependent on the flash client, and the flash client just may not be setup to take proper advantage of the gma500 yet.
If that where the case then Why does the 10v Play streaming Video Perfectly? My Co-Worker has the 10v and it runs WAY differently than my 10. And he has the Slow Atom Processor.


Ok To Add to my comment above. With all my different installs I forgot about one key thing on Flash. I didn't un-installed the default Firefox Flash Player and Install Adobe's Official Flash. Once I did that Bam! Flash animations is although not perfect but its Usable and Enjoyable now.

The remainder lacking area on the Flash I would have to Agree would be the Performance of the Atom Processor. But its so small that average users wouldnt notice. So to me for a netbook that is Acceptable. Because as well all know a netbook was not designed for Performance. But however it was designed for Email and Web Surfing.

I will not be modifying my Procedures later to support the remainder driver / firmware support packages for The GMA 500.

Ok so I tested more.. And Wow, is all I can say on the performance. Im Impressed BUT

Double Wow to all the random Freezes. And I do mean random. So I Reverted back to 2D Only drivers. I Even Tried some of the xorg.conf fixes for

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Display freezes with Intel graphics cards

Users of various Intel video chipsets reported freezes under various conditions (e. g. a few minutes after suspend on the i945, see 339091). In many cases, switching off desktop effects in System → Preferences → Appearance was reported to help.

If it still happens without desktop effects, you can add Option "DRI" "off" to the Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, as described above. This will disable 3D acceleration and desktop effects, but makes suspend work reliably again and also avoid many types of crashes.

These freezes happen particularly often on the i965 chips (359392). For that reason, desktop effects were disabled by default on this chipset in the final release. They will be re-enabled in a 9.04 Update once the problem has been fixed. and

Users of Intel video chipsets have reported performance regressions in Ubuntu 8.10 compared with previous releases (252094). Many of the issues have been resolved in Ubuntu 9.04, but some remain.

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Some users have found improved performance by using the "greedy" migration heuristic. This can be done by running "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", and adding Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" to the Device section of your xorg.conf.
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Alternatively, a new experimental acceleration architecture option, "DRI2/UXA", is available for Intel graphics users which our testing has found provides significant performance improvements in some cases, but has also shown risk of severe stability problems. You can opt-in to enable this by running "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", and adding Option "AccelMethod" "UXA" to the Device section of your xorg.conf. Users wishing to maximize stability should stay with the standard default acceleration method, "EXA".

/!\ In some cases this will lead to the graphical environment not starting at all or becoming entirely unusable. In that case, start into rescue mode or press Ctrl+Alt+F2 and log into the text console, and use sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf to revert the UXA option.
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If none of the above helps, some users reported success with using an older driver version
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Even trying out some of the Official Workarounds It didnt help with the freezes. only going back to 2D got rid of the freezes. The freezes wouldnt be as bad if you had some sort of control. Mouse keeps moving.. But No keyboard control. I enabled SSH and was able to ssh in and kill X. but thats a hassel.

Anyways I dont recommed the 3d drivers to anyone that isnt experianced with Linux. Stick with the 2d until there is a good and firm tested fix / patch.


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